MICHAEL PAUL WILLIAMS COLUMN: Patron with gun won—that time
Don't try this outside your home
The Golden Food Market robbery that ended with the gunman getting shot was the best possible outcome for a bad situation.July 19, 2009: Man who fatally wounded robber recounts tense shootout
Colin Goddard can relate to the experience of the frightened patrons who ducked behind counters or fled Golden Food Market during a robbery-turned-shootout.
Goddard was wounded April 16, 2007, when Seung-Hui Cho burst into a Virginia Tech classroom and opened fire. Now 23 and a Tech graduate, God dard works as an intern at the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence in Washington.
When told how a gun-toting customer had felled a man who'd shot the owner of Golden Food Market, Goddard hardly sounded like an anti-gun reactionary.
"You can't deny what happened, you know," he said. "The guy was able to successfully defend himself. Our movement is not against responsible gun owners exercising that right when their lives are in danger."
"That worked out in that situation," said Goddard, whose family lives in Richmond. "There are other situations where that doesn't work out. And that situation could have worked out in a million different ways."
Recalling that fatal day at Tech, he doubts that a classmate with a firearm could have produced a similar outcome. Things simply happened too fast to respond, he said. "I didn't realize what was going on until I had been shot."
The hero of the Golden Food Market incident does not want his identity released. But if he were known, he'd surely be a darling of the National Rifle Association and held up as an example of how a weapon in the right hands can deter crime and save innocent lives.
Richmond Commonwealth's Attorney Michael N. Herring must wince at such a thought. He hopes what happened on Jefferson Davis Highway on July 11 does not inspire a trend.
"No. No. It's not the answer," Herring said. "And as fortunate and heroic as the actions were, ultimately we were just plain lucky. Most citizens are not trained to shoot. And you can't judge the rightfulness of the conduct by the outcome."
And, as Herring pointed out, the first time someone in a similar situation misses the bad guy and nails a bystander, "then we will be at our wits' end on how to respond to that. And it will surely happen as long as we continue to fire guns in public."
The customer was within the law by using lethal force as a last resort in coming to the aid of someone facing possible death, Herring said. But clearly, in Herring's view, he should be viewed as an exception rather than an example.
Police, with all their training, don't always respond successfully to those situations. Civilians should not make a habit of trying.
Becca Knox, director of research for the Brady Campaign, says there are fewer than 200 justifiable gun homicides each year out of a total of more than 10,000 gun homicides.
"There's absolutely no evidence that if you make [a gun] easier to carry, gun violence goes down," Knox said.
What happened at Golden Food Market was a singular event carried out by an apparently remarkable individual. But anyone viewing this as a sort of template in the war on crime is tragically mistaken.
A society in which citizens see themselves as the last line of defense already has lost the battle.
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Mr. Lepps – I can understand your frustration with Mr. Williams and his article. But I still would like to hear from him regarding what I should do if his loved ones are in a similar situation as described in his article. I helped save an African-American gentleman’s life during the Rodney King riots in South Central Los Angeles where I used to live and he appreciated the help. Knowing all the police had been taken off the streets during the beginning of the riots (they really don’t have to come if you call 911) I certainly would not have been out in that street without a gun. But, according to ideas presented by Mr. Williams in his article, if something like that happens to his loved ones I assume he doesn’t want me to use my Colt 357 revolver to save them. Are you really serious about that Mr. Williams? I look forward to you answer being posted here for all to read.
Joseph L. (Joe) Bass
The author of this stool sample, would prefer that everyone that was in that store that day was killed. That fits his anti self defense agenda. A dead victim is morally superior to a still living victim who defended their own life with deadly force. Disgusting!
“the first time someone in a similar situation misses the bad guy and nails a bystander”
Hey smart guy, how does the “nailed bystander” magically survive being shot by the criminal?
“A society in which citizens see themselves as the last line of defense already has lost the battle.“
This is such a pathetic statement, I can taste vomit in my mouth. This individual who saved lives, was not only the FIRST line of defense, he was the ONLY line of defense.
RoyB – Thank you for your comment. It will be interesting to see if Mr. Williams responds to my request for answers to my questions. By first post never appeared but was left up on the second attempt. Two other postings requesting a response from Mr. Williams also never appeared. Mr. Williams, from his position as a columnist, is attempting to convince people that self-defense is unnecessary and not a fundamental right. Self defense has been a right in Virginia from the first time an Englishman stepped foot on our soil more than four hundred years ago. Of course, gun control was an important policy of the Ku Klux Klan. This would not seem “good company” for Mr. Williams.
I posted a similar set of questions on the Virginian-Pilot’s website in Norfolk and the columnist actually called me and we had a gentlemanly conversation; he actually thanked me for the information I provided in our discussion. Maybe Mr. Williams might reply to my comments and post them on the website along with our comments. We shall see. If not, there will be some people that will die defenseless on the streets of Richmond because they believe Mr. Williams.
Joseph L. (Joe) Bass
Joe—I really hate to be in the position of defending either the RTD or MPW; after all, the first buys ink by the barrel, while the second has a regular forum. Just the same, fair’s fair, so here goes.
You have two comments posted online (as of a moment ago). Don’t know how many others have been deleted.
MPW has been out of the office for a couple of days, according to the automated response I got to a direct email to him. If he ain’t there, he probably ain’t answering questions. NOTE, however, that he completely ignored a previous email about anti-gun bias, and also completely ignored a followup email . . . so we can’t rule out a categorical refusal.
We’ll see . . . mostly all we can do is to keep on pointing out those inconvenient little facts. We can also write letters to the editor at <letters@timesdispatch.com>, or short notes at <your2cents@timesdispatch.com>, or contact his editors—but let’s wait and get more evidence first.
Why should a public have any regard or respect for a columnist who will not answer direct questions about issues he or she writes about? Why should a public have any regard or respect for a news source such as the Richmond Times Dispatch that censors such questions from common view? Such columnists and news sources should not be held in regard or respect and should be ignored. They clearly and seriously lack integrity.
Joseph L (Joe) Bass
If more armed robbers are shot, shot right on-spot, then there will be less bums attempting to pull armed robberies.
I do not know the origin of this remark, but it sums up the position of the vast majority of the respondents to this article:
“When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.“
I too am a long time reader and I have endured many columns from Mr. Williams.
Of course, he cannot resist the urge to trot out an anti-gun victim of the VA Tech shooting (and a Brady intern at that).
There is great evil in the world and Mr. Goddard’s suffering at the hands of an (arguably) insane person at VA Tech was (and is) an awful event that no one should have to endure. Effective resistance was not available and evil was allowed to run its course - killing and injuring many.
But what possible bearing does Mr. Goddard’s opinion or limited knowledge have to do with this instance of armed robbery? Evil visited this convenience store and was dispatched by effective resistance. Shall we ask the store keeper (shot twice before he could even comply with the robber’s instructions) about other potential outcomes? How about the patron that was an apparent target for execution? Anecdotes and personal impressions abound on all sides.
Mr. Goddard’s experience makes him a crime victim, complete with all the terrible complexity (and simplicity) that being a victim entails. It does not provide Mr. Goddard (or any of the VA Tech victims or family members) with any sort of enhanced wisdom, knowledge or special status with regard to the “truth” on guns, gun violence or the defensive capabilities of other people. Their opinions count no more or less than those of anyone else (contrary to the pandering media).
It is still the right of the law abiding citizen to decide whether or not they are “fast” enough, “together” enough and sufficiently versed in the law to handle this type of responsibility. A significant part of this is to understand the consequences of acting improperly (which are severe).
The Brady Campaign can always be counted on for a complete failure to mention the thousands upon thousands of “defensive uses” of firearms each year where the presence of the armed citizen stopped the incident before it could escalate to a shooting - not to mention the prevention of countless instances of robbery, rape, assault, etc.
Other comments have already addressed the role and limitations of the police in being able to interrupt an individual intent on homicide. I will offer that our only hope is that citizens’ will again view themselves as the first line of defense (in whatever form that vigilance takes).
Discharging a firearm in public is not a good thing and should be done in only the gravest extreme. But sending a message that - no matter what - we will cower in the corner and offer up no resistance doesn’t seem to have brought us to a good place either.
As a long-time reader, I value Mr. Williams column and sometimes agree with his opinion [but mostly disagree].
I have never commented before, but I find the last paragraph of today’s piece to be so unreal that I must register my protest.
I find the following quote by Jeff Cooper to sum up my opinion and offer it as an alternative to Mr. Williams final paragraph:
“The police cannot protect the citizen at this stage of our development, and they cannot even protect themselves in many cases. It is up to the private citizen to protect himself and his family, and this is not only acceptable, but mandatory.“
If only I were a gambling man. As the story of the tragic July 11 shooting at the Golden Food Market unfolded and the facts became known, I became quite convinced I would soon enough see in my morning paper an opinion piece authored by Michael Paul Williams decrying not only the event, which is certainly well-deserved, but also the resolution involving (gasp!) an armed citizen. I was not disappointed.
The argument appears to be that, as an “average citizen”, one should not be responding to imminent threats with defensive measures involving the use of firearms, either in an effort to protect oneself, one’s family, or one’s fellows, and that one should instead rely upon one’s sworn police officers, acknowledged to be highly trained and dedicated, to address said threats.
Were police present in, or in the immediate proximity of, the Golden Food Market that day? Can we and should we expect a police officer to be present in each and every situation where and when such a threat arises? The obvious answers are “No”, and “Of course not.”
Mr. Williams’ real argument, then, seems to be that we citizens are to respond to life-threatening events such as this by bleating as sheep and hoping for the best. I refuse, and reject his argument as ludicrous. And contrary to his closing statement, I submit that a society whose citizens do not consider themselves to be the last line of defense is truly a society that has, and is, lost.
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