Chesterfield seeks tougher laws on crowded houses
Published: February 19, 2009
Chesterfield County is looking at ways to limit the number of people living under a single roof.
Planning commissioners this week directed staff members to work up a draft ordinance by April that would limit the number of occupants based on the home's square footage.
Current Chesterfield zoning law allows as many as four unrelated people to live in one home, including up to two "roomers" who can rent rooms from the homeowner, but there is no cap on the total number in each house. The suggested changes would set a cap on the number who live in a house -- even if they are related.
The county's exploration of the housing issue comes in response to complaints during the past year that large numbers of people were living together in single-family homes.
Jo Trout, a resident of the 500-home Surreywood subdivision north of Hull Street Road, was one of those who complained about a house in her neighborhood.
"We have actually had a situation where a group of immigrants purchased a house in our subdivision. They made bedrooms out of the living room, the dining room. They had a huge two-car garage where everybody ate -- they actually put some stoves and things in there," she said.
In recent years, Chesterfield has begun to look more seriously at its illegal-immigrant population as courts, jails and health services have struggled to keep up with demand. A 2007 report estimated that illegal immigrants cost the county $1.35 million in fiscal 2006.
Tommy Baer, a local attorney who focuses on immigration issues, said the county could be treading on thin ice. "That's Big Brother kind of stuff," he said. "I just don't think that's going to fly constitutionally."
Ted Barclay, Chesterfield's code-compliance supervisor, said the changes discussed this week could allow for easier enforcement of the zoning code, because zoning officers easily could determine whether a house had too many occupants.
In Surreywood, Trout said the issue since has been resolved when the house was sold, but the Surreywood Civic Association and other community groups would like to prevent similar issues in the future. She suggested that homeowners should be required to apply for a conditional-use permit to rent, allowing for community dialogue.
"Those people who are renting rooms, they are not vested in our community or any community. They don't care. They come and go at odd hours. They don't care whether they throw trash on the streets. They don't care if they maintain our speed limits," she said.
"We're trying to get the county to help us keep and maintain the integrity of a single-family home. When I buy in a subdivision, that's what my assumption is, not that I'm going to have a boarding house next door."
Barclay said the county building code limits the number of occupants in any dwelling, but that limit is based primarily on capacity. As a result, 20 or 30 people could be allowed to live under one roof.
Caroline County, which has a building-occupancy provision in its zoning laws, requires 70 square feet for a room to be considered a bedroom, allowing for a single occupant. For each additional occupant, 50 square feet of bedroom space is required. Herndon in Northern Virginia has similar provisions.
Chesterfield Board of Supervisors Chairman A.S. "Art" Warren said he has received numerous complaints from residents of some subdivisions about overcrowded houses and multiple cars parked outside.
"It's going to be very difficult to deal with this any way you look at it, but it is a problem and it has come up in many places," he said. "Certainly whatever is recommended by the Planning Commission, I'm going to give serious attention to."
Chesterfield supervisors next month will consider a hike in the penalty for homes where more than four unrelated persons are living. The supervisors also will consider shortening the appeal period after a violation is issued. As proposed, the maximum fine would go from $2,000 to $5,000 and the appeal period from 30 days to 10 days.
Contact Wesley P. Hester at (804) 649-6976 or
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This—and more—is DESPERATELY NEEDED. The blight which has destroyed so many neighborhoods in other parts of the country is JUST BEGINNING here in Chesterfield.
Overcrowding, crime, filth, fire hazards, garbage thrown everywhere, illegal and unsafe room divisions, cars parked in front yards and clogging up streets, loud meringue at 2am, dozens of unsupervised (often unclaimed) children, 20 and 30 people per house, and it goes on and on.
If you don’t stop it where it is now, it will take over and ruin your community. If you think home values have plummeted lately, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
hjackson, calm down and drink some Koolaid. There is no state code, that is why local law enforcement or cops as you so eloquently put it don’t arrest people for being in this country illegally. There is a difference in state and federal law.
Can I please have my job back now?
Posted by ( JohnnyLaw ) on February 20, 2009 at 2:03 pm
HJackson what is the VA State Code for illegal aliens? When you find it let me know so I can start arresting them OK?
Ok JohnnyLaw since you don’t know what the code is on illegals then you don’t know your job do you? If you don’t have perfect and comprehensive knowledge of the VA State Code then you cannot pretend to be an effective law enforcement officer can you. Perhaps you should do us suffering taxpayers a favor and resign so someone more qualified can enforce our laws. Why don’t you identify yourself and your location so we can check with your superiors on your real qualifications (if any).
HJackson what is the VA State Code for illegal aliens? When you find it let me know so I can start arresting them OK?
Posted by ( tammy ) on February 20, 2009 at 8:45 am
hijackson: Don’t be so quick to judge our law enforcement.
Non enforcement of our laws by our law enforcement is the cause of so many illegals being able to live in our communities, use our tax money for medical, food stamps, etc. Law enforcement seems reluctant to root out the greedy American Citizens who employ them, rent to them, turn a blind eye to their legal status. Why? Because the ones doing it are friends, neighbors, family or influential members of the area who pulls the strings to hinder enforcement of our laws. These are the ones who should be dealt with but it will never happen.
Many are from Brazil, not just Mexico. I don’t have a problem with anyone who comes here legally. After all that’s what this country is based on, and how we all arrived here.
hijackson: Don’t be so quick to judge our law enforcement. Illegal immigrants are able to obtain a business license, and tax id’s. A company doesn’t have to prove the sub-contractors are legal. The company I use to work for, hired illegal sub-contractors because they could pay them less $. After about a year, these illegal immigrants knew what they should be making and got it. This same company would send them on jobs, and sign off papers for the other company saying they were not using anyone illegal. Business want them here to take advantage of them so they can pay less $. Most work for a few years, send the $ back to their families, and I would constantly receive notices from the IRS looking for them because they didn’t pay their taxes. They never will, they made their $, the business saved $, and we all pay the price. Maybe, if this was stopped on the forefront then more legal citizens would have jobs, and this country wouldn’t be in the mess it is in. It all comes back to the same thing, GREED.
Just because they are immigrants does not make them illegal. Just because someone is a renter does not mean they don’t care about where they live and just because someone owns their home, doesn’t mean they care about it or the neighborhood. Jo Trout sounds like a narrow minded white woman who doesn’t want anything other than white neighbors.
I do agree, however, that there should be a limit on the number of unrelated people living in a house.
Navy05
There are existing laws that target them for being illegal immigrants. There is no need for a new law to address the number of people who can live in a house. There undoubtedly is already a law that addresses that, anyway. Just use the law that they are breaking, assuming they are illegal, to move them out of the country, not just out of the Chesterfield neighborhoods. And, yes, I agree with you that a large group of un-related caucasian people would also get a derogatory name thrown at them and ridiculous laws passed to get them out of the neighborhood. If they are illegal aliens, use the immigration laws to deal with it. On the other hand, do you really think that the neighbors would complain about 20-30 white men living in one house, parking their vehicles all over the yard and street and coming and going all the time. That actually happens in some locations and nobody is trying to pass laws concerning how many people can live in a house to address that “problem”.
It doesn’t matter who they are. If they are here illegally then they need to be rounded up and deported out of the country. The reason so many are here now is our law enforcement is flat out not doing their job. Cops don’t have any problems enforcing the law on citizens why do they turn a blind eye to this?
The impact on us is devastating. Go into any of our schools and observe the disruption in the classrooms. They can’t speak our language, they don’t have our culture or values. Every day we get weaker as a society because some refuse the basic principal of we are a law abiding people. Not anymore.
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