Restaurant smoking bill passes House committee
Bob Brown/Times-Dispatch
Gov. Timothy M. Kaine announced the legislation this morning with House Speaker William Howell.
A bill to ban smoking in Virginia’s bars and restaurants cleared the House of Delegates General Laws Committee this evening by a 16-6 vote.
The bill will now go to the full House.
The committee action came on the same day that Republican House Speaker William J. Howell and Democratic Gov. Timothy M. Kaine reached agreement on the proposed legislation.
Flanked by a bipartisan group of lawmakers, Howell and Kaine discussed the legislation that would make exceptions for private clubs and restaurants with a designated smoking room that is physically separated and independently ventilated from non-smoking dining areas.
The bill would also exclude any permanent outdoor patio area of a restaurant, any portion of a restaurant used just for private functions and street-side mobile food stands.
Howell and Kaine cooperated to forge the agreement.
But legislators said the compromise did not include any guaranteed passage by the House, which has been hostile to anti-smoking bills. The bill will be carried by a Republican in the House and a Democrat in the Senate.
“The compromise strikes a fair balance between the rights of smokers who choose to enjoy a legal product and the rights of other individuals who want to enjoy a smoke-free environment when eating at a restaurant,“ Howell said this morning in a news conference.
Keenan Caldwell, director of government relations for the American Cancer Society of Virginia, said health groups had no role in crafting the proposed compromise. He said the groups were still reviewing the proposal.
“Our hope has always been something that protects the health of workers,“ Caldwell said. “At first glance, as you look at (the compromise), it doesn’t do that, and it is not really in the interest of public health, so that is a major concern of ours.“
But Sara Long, director of program services for the March of Dimes, said she was encouraged to see the state “taking baby steps to help the babies.“
David Sutton, a spokesman for cigarette maker Philip Morris USA, expressed skepticism.
“While this bill attempts to provide a compromse, we believe that some of the provisions go too far,“ he said. “It would impose significant costs in a very difficult economy on business owners that would like to accommodate smokers in their establishments.“
And some conservative grass-roots organizations were not happy with the deal.
Ben Marchi, with Americans for Prosperity, said about Howell, “The activists he will depend on this fall, many of whom are members of groups like ours, will not be pleased that he has caved to the advocates of big government, namely the governor.
“We feel it is unfortunate that the speaker has chosen to trust government to solve our problems rather than to trust consumers with the decision.“
If passed, the bill would make Virginia part of a growing list of states passing legislation to curb smoking in restaurants. Twenty-three other states, including Maryland, have passed bans on smoking indoors at bars and restaurants, as have the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico.
In Virginia, smoking was banned in all state buildings and vehicles under an executive order signed in 2006 by Kaine.
State legislators, in both chambers and on both sides of the aisle, proposed 14 smoking ban bills this year, according to Kaine’s office. In addition to that high interest, Howell said he thinks a compromise was forged this year because “both sides were willing to yield.“
The Senate backed total bans, including private clubs, Howell said, and the House was unwilling to adopt such a broad prohibition.
“You’re gonna tell a guy that fought at the Battle of the Bulge that he can’t have a cigarette with his coffee at the VFW club,“ Howell said. “You can’t do things like that.“
Under the legislation, violators would be subject to a fine of no more than $25.
The agreement follows the rejection earlier this week by legislators of a key component of Kaine’s budget-cutting plan involving tobacco—a 30 cent per pack hike in the tax on cigarettes. Kaine had hoped to raise $147 million with the tax, which he said would help prevent further cuts in Medicaid and offesty the $400 million or so it costs the state to treat smoking related illnesses under the program.
Second-hand smoke is responsible for an estimated 1,700 deaths per year, according to the Virginia Department of Health. In addition, the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids estimates the Commonwealth spends $113 million a year on health care expenditures related to exposure to second-hand smoke.
How the bill will fare on the floor of the full House is uncertain.
“I’m never confident down here,“ Howell said. “I’m surprised very day.“
—Olympia Meola, Jim Nolan and Tyler Whitley,
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Reader Reactions
Lloyd, thanks for the advice: I do avoid those restaurants, but I also sing and I enjoy the opportunity to sing at OpenMics in pubs where, sad to say, there is usually a lot of smoke. Two quotes may be apropos here:
“There are none so blind as those who will not see.“
Jonathan Swift
“New ideas are not only the enemies of old ones, but they also appear often in an extremely unacceptable form.“ Carl Jung
Me Too-Lloyd Schieldge said it all, intelligently and civilly.
I had to chuckle at the “brownie points” comment. I never thought of it that way. Thank you though for pointing out that my actions did have merit.
For decade or more after I started smoking, as others have pointed out, the practice was accepted EVERYWHERE.
Trains,planes and automobiles. Cars, elevators, hospitals in general, hospital rooms in particular. Waiting rooms of all descriptions. EVERYWHERE.
You might have taken the time to check that out before you took it upon yourself to chastise me, or anyone else.
Having the rudimentary facts at hand is essential when one decides to jump into a forum and voice ones opinion.
Scientific expertise is not expected in these commentaries but a passing acquaintance with the subject is. Especially if one is going to set oneself up as critic at large.
Bluejay, I can understand you aggravation with restaurants that choose to allow cigarette smoking and I respectfully suggest that you stop going to restaurants that allow cigarette smoking, or eat at home where you can make the rules
MeToo, You are absolutely right in that no one has a Constitutional right to smoke, conversely, non-smokers do not have a right to a smoke free environment. The Federal Civil Rights Act guarantees all people the right to “full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.“ As long as a business owner establishes his business as a place were the rules are consistent for all, he or she can do so. A non smoker does however have the right to eat elsewhere, and a smoker does not have the right to smoke in an establishment that is clearly identified as a smoke-free establishment. It is just as easy for a non smoker to go outside to get a breath of fresh air as it is for a smoker to go outside and smoke. I suspect Smoking is banned in office buildings, elevators and air planes not because it is offensive to others, but because of fire safety issues and because in the event of mechanical failure, there may be no provision to provide fresh air. (it just so happens that non smokers benefit in these case). I prefer restaurants where cigarette smoking is not allowed but I do respect their right to choose whether their business shall be a smoking, non smoking, or somewhere in between, business.
It has been proven that cigarettes are even more addictive than heroin; you can’t depend on an addict to “do the right thing” and be considerate of others - even their own children. I’m sick of going to restaurants and pubs and coming home stinking of smoke and chemicals - not to mention having breathed the stuff in for hours.. I’m appalled by the cigarette butts littering every inch of the land and roadways. Smoking is not a constitutional right; it’s just big business and a nasty littering habit to boot. By the way, I used to smoke and I always cleaned up after myself. People don’t even use their car ashtrays anymore, just flick the lighted butt out their windows. I’m tired of the whining about the so-called “rights” of addicts who are willing to endanger the health of others. My father died of lung cancer and it’s not a nice way to go, I can assure you..
Me Too: I don’t know where you have been, but smoking was allowed in the workplace, etc. I think there should be smoking areas, and non-smoking areas. No one has answered my question. What about those who are allergic to perfume or cologne? Should you be banned from that also? Where does it end? If you “own” your business, then it should be your choice. If you don’t like it then you should not go to “their” business.
I have made this observation when driving… why do smokers always roll down or crach their window when they smoke in the car? Is it to vent the smoke, or make it easier for them to litter our highways with their butts?
Me Too:
Your showing your age. I can remember a time not too long ago when you could smoke on an airplane. And as recently as three years ago I could smoke in my office (and no I don’t work for PM).
Great, right on!
Greta who said “I am an ex-smoker. Even when I smoked I always avoided smoking in areas where non-smokers were confined due to no choice of their own. The workplace, elevators, airplanes etc.“
You “avoided” smoking in those places because there is a BAN on smoking in those place (by law or the business’ policy). Even if you’d wanted to, you wouldn’t have had the choice. Sorry, your not getting a brownie point for that one.
Can we all stop and remember that there is no constitutional right to smoke? It’s not illegal, but you are not guaranteed the right to smoke or do whatever you feel like wherever you feel like it. If you disagree, I’d love to see you cite an amendment and give a great argument as to why smoking is a constitutional right. I’ll even give you the link to the Bill of Rights http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.billofrights.html
vagirl: “The issue is what you are doing in public that affects others. As much as smokers are in denial that their second hand smoke affects others, the fact is that it does, and that is what this law is addressing.“ I could not have articulated this better.
What this basically boils down to is a fight of “whose liberty is more important?“. Liberty is one thing, but when your freedom to smoke in a public place invades and infringes upon my liberty to abstain from that same habit, that has been proven to have detrimental outcomes, that is where your liberty should end and mine should begin.
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