Gubernatorial debate turns contentious in N.Va.

Gubernatorial debate turns contentious in N.Va.

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At left, R. Creigh Deeds points at Bob McDonnell. At right, McDonnell holds up a blank sheet of paper to represent what he says is Deeds’ roads plan.

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SLIDESHOW: Deeds-McDonnell Debate

McLEAN - Familiarity may be breeding contempt in the Virginia governor's race.

The second debate between Democrat R. Creigh Deeds and Republican Bob McDonnell featured the most pointed and prickly exchanges between the candidates to date.

The debate came as a new poll showed the race about even. The Rasmussen Reports telephone poll of 500 likely voters showed McDonnell at 48 percent and Deeds at 46 percent. The poll's margin of error was 4.5 percentage points. Two weeks ago, McDonnell led by 9 percentage points.

During the Fairfax Chamber of Commerce debate, attended by several hundred businesspeople at Capital One's Northern Virginia campus, both men saved their rhetorical firepower for the areas they perceive to be the greatest weakness in their rivals.

Deeds, a state senator from Bath County, continued to hammer McDonnell on his controversial 1989 graduate-school thesis, which stated, in part, that working women are detrimental to the family. McDonnell, a former delegate and former state attorney general, said Deeds has no transportation plan.

Deeds said McDonnell had not focused on economic development as a legislator and attorney general but instead had pursued a "narrow band of social issues" that were hostile to women and their reproductive rights.

"I didn't write when I was 34 years old that working women were detrimental to the family," Deeds said. "I didn't write when I was 34 years old that Roe v. Wade ought to be overturned. I didn't write when I was 34 years old that the state ought to be involved in contraception decisions for married adults."

McDonnell said that as governor he would promote "on merit and ability." And he reprised a line from Ronald Reagan during a 1980 debate with President Jimmy Carter:

"There you go again," he said. "Here's my wife and daughter," McDonnell said, pointing to his family seated in the front row.

"I told you I support working women," said McDonnell, who noted that half of his top 10 deputies at the attorney general's office were women.

"I'm frankly pretty insulted that you would say that my daughter, who I supported and loved for 28 years," and who led an Army platoon in Iraq, "that I don't support working women."

McDonnell also went on the offensive during the debate. He said Deeds is a big spender favored by big labor.

He attacked Deeds for not putting forth a transportation plan that spells out how he would pay for $1 billion in improvements to the state's roads.

"Here's my opponent's plan," said McDonnell, holding up a blank sheet of paper. "Not a thing on it. That's his only plan - to raise taxes."

Deeds, under questioning by moderator David Gregory of NBC's "Meet the Press," said he would not raise general taxes and that he would not pay for transportation by taking money from the general fund or education. But he said he would sign a transportation plan that raises new money.

"I will do that as long as it's a dedicated source of funding for transportation, as long as it has a nexus between the people who use the system and the system itself, and as long as it's part of a plan that's long-term in scope and statewide in nature," he said.

He said McDonnell's plan would drain money from education and that McDonnell's plan to sell the state's Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control stores to raise money would cost the state the $65 million a year that it receives from their revenue.

McDonnell said he would not raise taxes as governor. After the debate, he said he would not sign a transportation bill submitted to him by the legislature if it included any tax increase.

There were other contentious and uncomfortable moments for the candidates during the hourlong debate, the second of four before the Nov. 3 general election.

Deeds said McDonnell had been spending "hundreds of thousands of dollars downstate lying about my record" on federal "cap-and-trade" legislation to reduce carbon emissions. Deeds said during the debate that he opposes the legislation.

When Deeds questioned McDonnell's plan to sell the state's ABC stores, McDonnell noted that former Gov. L. Douglas Wilder - an influential Democrat who has yet to endorse a candidate in the race - had proposed the idea to then-Gov. Mark R. Warner seven years ago.

"Creigh, it will work," McDonnell said. "You can talk to Doug Wilder and he'll explain it to you."

Citing previous remarks in which Deeds said he doesn't always agree with President Barack Obama's policies, Gregory asked Deeds: "Is he your kind of Democrat?"

Deeds paused and smiled before explaining his position and responding: "I'm a Creigh Deeds Democrat."

Gregory also asked Deeds whether he thought some of the opposition to Obama "in this state and in other parts of the country is motivated by racism."

"I'd like to think in this country that we're beyond some things, but clearly there is a hint of racism in some of the opposition to President Obama - that is crystal clear," Deeds said.

Gregory did not ask the same question of McDonnell. But after the debate, McDonnell was asked whether he thought South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson's "You lie" charge during Obama's health-care address to Congress last week was racist.

"No," McDonnell said. "But it was uncivil."



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Flag Comment Posted by datony on September 20, 2009 at 10:48 pm

lol i know that u cant be serious “Justaguy”....so that is why i am lmao…..im not buying into that whole ‘socialist’ march crap…..i will say it now and i will say it later, this is all about a budget, a budget that has been abused and Kaine has pretty much wrecked it for democrats in va…..so regardless of the past paper that was written by Mcdonnell, he’ll still win the election…

Flag Comment Posted by Justaguy on September 20, 2009 at 7:56 pm

Anyone who wants to keep their job and hope to be able to get an education (or ensure that one’s children and grandchildren) do likewise.

Having a DEMOCRAT for GOVERNOR when we have a Democrat as President means ONLY GOOD THINGS for Virginia.

Flag Comment Posted by oneuser on September 20, 2009 at 7:06 pm

( Justagay ) If you like Kaine you will love Deeds. Why would anyone who still has a job vote for Deeds?

Flag Comment Posted by datony on September 19, 2009 at 11:29 pm

lol wow…..instead of a debate,i’ll be that if they generated a series of fights, that would generate a lot more publicity to the political scene…...put them in a UFC cage match,but one fight wouldnt be enough, they would have to fight at least 3 fights and regardless of who won, it’ll show who wants it more and just how much they really dont like each other lol….all jokes aside, since time kaine has been throttling the state’s budget since he has been in office, the likelihood of deeds getting elected is very small…..kinda hard to expect that he isnt going to follow behind tim kaine’s trend of slashin….although on the flip side of that, i dont agree with selling the ABC stores to private bidders…..everyone here in va better wake up and pay attention to it…pretty soon, va streets will be looking like d.c. and baltimore if you do that, liquor store on every corner

Flag Comment Posted by william23508 on September 18, 2009 at 12:57 pm

A previous writer commented that Deeds is…“not a Kaine/Warner Democrat.“  But he is a democrat which, as both parties are doing, will vote along party lines. 

We must stop the Socialist march being forced upon us by the Democrats now in the majority.  Deeds will follow the party instructions and let it infect Virginia.  We must say No to democrats now forcing this socialism with such urgency.

McDonnell has values that will stand up for regular Virginians and their families.

Flag Comment Posted by Justaguy on September 18, 2009 at 12:22 pm

Deeds strikes me as a decent fellow not given to hyperbolic bombast the way McDonnell is.  He is most definitely not a Kaine/Warner Democrat. 

His politics are far more centrist and if the Virginia Republican Party had any room in it for for moderate Republicans, they would have courted Deeds to come across the party line the way the Dems managed to get Jim Webb to renounce his Republican history and bring the moderate Republicans with him to win the Senate seat.

McDonnell’s ultra-right wing Republicanism (Jerry Falwell, Liberty U.)seems like a throwback from a former era, one that our Commonwealth needs to leave in the past.

So, McDonnell’s sophomoric accusation that Deeds will raise taxes strikes me as a bunch of lies, lies and more lies.

Deeds has my vote.

Flag Comment Posted by MrCobray on September 18, 2009 at 10:37 am

Deeds convienced me to vote for McDonnell.  I am convienced it is time to get RID of this “Left Wing Political Hacks” from the Democrat Party…

Flag Comment Posted by Anon on September 18, 2009 at 10:03 am

“I didn’t write when I was 34 years old that working women were detrimental to the family, ...“

This is brilliant.  Deeds needs to make a TV commercial with just those three lines.  Nothing could more clearly differentiate the two candidates.

Flag Comment Posted by T on September 18, 2009 at 9:57 am

Regarding the privatization of ABC stores:

Please correct me if I’m wrong - and I know there are many of you who will gleely pounce on the opportunity to do that! - but it seems to me that the Commonwealth would save rent costs, utilities costs, and the costs of wages/benefits to State employees by privatizing the ABC stores BUT it would receive sales tax revenue, and the employees would more than likely become employees of the private owners (and might make more money with possibly better benefits).  Just wondering…

Flag Comment Posted by Reverend on September 18, 2009 at 9:44 am

When it comes to politics, the snarky comments DO fly easily don’t they? Do they work? NOPE! They just make the commenter feel better, even when it does nothing to prove a point.

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