Gun bill beaten, but new vote set today

Gun bill beaten, but new vote set today

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Sen. Henry L. Marsh III of Richmond (standing) discusses gun-show loophole bill with Sen. Charles J. Colgan, D-Prince William.

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The green button means "yes." The red button means "no."

Yesterday, a Virginia senator's mistake of pressing red when he meant to press green gave new life to a bill that seeks to close the "gun-show loophole."

But its new life may be short-lived.

Senators voted 22-18 yesterday to defeat a bill that would require most purchasers of firearms at gun shows to submit to criminal background checks.

The bill comes up for reconsideration today on the Senate floor. But proponents would need three more votes for passage, not just one.

"It's not on life support," said Sen. Henry L. Marsh III, D-Richmond, the bill's sponsor. "But it's wounded."

Sen. Charles J. Colgan, D-Prince William, asked for the vote to be reconsidered after realizing he inadvertently voted against the measure.

"I just punched the wrong button," he said.

That led to a request from Marsh that a new vote on the legislation to be put off until today.

The bill had the support of two Republican senators -- Thomas K. Norment Jr. of James City County and Sen. Frederick M. Quayle of Chesapeake -- both of whom had backed the measure when it cleared the Courts of Justice Committee on an 8-7 vote.

After the Senate floor session, gun-control advocates -- including surviving victims and some family members of the 32 people killed in the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre -- spent the afternoon pressing hard to switch the two votes needed to win passage.

The advocates focused on two Republicans -- Sens. Walter A. Stosch of Henrico County and John Watkins of Powhatan County. Advocates said both voted for a similar bill when it reached the Senate floor in 2005; they voted against the measure yesterday.

In addition to Colgan's mistaken vote, three Democrats joined Republicans in voting against the measure -- Sens. R. Edward Houck of Spotsylvania County, W. Roscoe Reynolds of Henry County and John S. Edwards of Roanoke.

Edwards had pushed for an amendment that would make background checks at gun shows voluntary, to be done only at the request of private sellers. Marsh said he thinks such an amendment might win approval for the bill, but some Tech families last night said they oppose the compromise.

Currently, only licensed dealers are required to conduct background checks of purchasers; private vendors may sell to anyone without requiring a background check. Felons, spousal abusers and the mentally ill are forbidden from possessing firearms.

Nearly four dozen survivors and family members of victims of the Tech massacre signed a letter to senators urging their support for the bill, which would require private sellers to check the backgrounds of all purchasers at shows, except those who hold concealed-weapons permits, or who are buying antique firearms.

"Frustrating," said Tech survivor Lily Habtu, who still has a bullet lodged at the base of her skull.

Tech gunman Seung-Hui Cho did not purchase the firearms he used in the murders at a gun show. But Marsh argued that the publicity and size of gun shows, which attract private sellers as well as licensed dealers, create "an easy opportunity" for unqualified individuals to purchase firearms.

"It's not a loophole," Sen. Janet D. Howell, D-Fairfax, told her colleagues yesterday on the floor before the vote.

"It's a gaping hole."

None of the bill's opponents spoke against the measure before the vote on the Senate floor.



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Flag Comment Posted by steve001968 on February 08, 2009 at 4:52 pm

How are the tech shootings even remotely relevant to this bill? Cho bought his weapons from a licensed dealer and completed the required background check. The tech shootings are totally irrelevant to this bill. Further anybody that thinks you can even begin to stop any given individual from obtaining any weapon they want should look at how well prohibition of illegal drugs has worked i.e. not at all. Illegal drugs are gone and have to be replenished with new supply as soon as they are used. Firearms by contrast are durable and will last for a century or more if properly maintained so how does anyone expect to control the latter when control of the former should be much easier but has in fact been an utter and complete failure?

You aren’t entitled to an expectation of perfect safety and you aren’t going to have it no matter how much freedom you try to trade for it. Period. Anyone who wants to can attempt a tech style massacre whenever they want and there isn’t a thing the government can do to protect you from it. They can however make the shooters job much easier by creating gun free zones (AKA killer safety zones) like VA Tech insuring that the shooter doesn’t need to fear any armed resistance.

Flag Comment Posted by VaGentleman on February 04, 2009 at 3:34 pm

No additional law would have prevented Cho from lying on the federal background check form that he was required to fill out before obtaining his firearms.

Flag Comment Posted by general lee on February 04, 2009 at 11:48 am

what they won’t come up with if things don’t go their way. you don’t suppose he did a bill clinton the night before

Flag Comment Posted by Susan on February 04, 2009 at 10:47 am

Senator Marsh managed to hit the wrong button also yesterday, also on a gun bill vote. See here. I’m beginning to think these “oopsies” are calculated moves to bring a dead bill back for a re-vote just like Marsh has managed to do with this bill to regulate sales between private individuals.

Also, I think it’s nauseating the way the gun banners are using the Tech victims and families to push their hidden agenda. The poor people seem to convinced that what they’re helping to push for will actually help stem criminal acts.

Flag Comment Posted by Henry's Ghost on February 04, 2009 at 9:27 am

Honest officer, I just pressed the gas instead of the brake.

We all know how well that works don’t we?

Flag Comment Posted by Henry's Ghost on February 04, 2009 at 9:23 am

This will die a quick death in the House. This is bad legislation to fix a non-existent problem.

Flag Comment Posted by Jer1234 on February 04, 2009 at 8:49 am

So what happens when someone slse says “they hit the wrong button”?  You live with it.  Quit whining as the bill failed again.  what other bills can this run around be used for?

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