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They lined up early. They listened without booing. And they left in an orderly fashion -- without shouting, fighting or the escort of law enforcement.

Given the partisan sound and fury in recent town halls on health-care reform, attendees said yesterday's Richmond Times-Dispatch public forum was just what the doctor ordered.

"What you see on TV as far as trying to get messages across from our congressmen has just been a spectacle," said Thomas Francis, 66, a retired truck dispatcher from Richmond and one of 225 people who attended the forum at the newspaper's offices in downtown Richmond.

"And to have a situation where you are civil about it and you discuss both sides was really refreshing."

Like many in the diverse audience, Meghan Steely, 14, of Midlothian was hoping for a better understanding of the issue.

"I started learning about the health-care bill from different news shows, and it didn't make sense to me," she said.

Opinions were not necessarily changed during the 90-minute forum, which featured U.S. Reps. Robert C. Scott, D-3rd, and Eric I. Cantor, R-7th.

"I think those of us who went in feeling that the "public option" was something we ought to be looking at came out that way," said Crist Berry, 66, a retired human-resources manager from Richmond.

"I think that those who went in thinking that it should be pure competition probably felt that [Cantor] did a decent job."

Mostly, attendees seemed happy just to know that both sides would be heard. Their concerns ranged from the broad public-policy issue of what role government should play in health care, to the painfully personal concerns of any changes to the current system -- or the failure to make changes.

The first person to show up for the forum arrived Sunday about 9:30 p.m. He decided that was unnecessarily early and headed home. A security guard noticed someone in line yesterday at 5:20 a.m.

Randy Lanthrip, who retired from the Army in March, was second in line and arrived at 5:45 a.m. He wanted to know where the 45 million people who might be put into the health-care system would go.

"There are no new doctors and no new hospitals," he said. "Where does that leave veterans?"

Cynthia Losen was third in line and arrived shortly after Lanthrip. She said she has faced two major health crises recently, including breast cancer.

"I've had to fight my insurance company the whole time," she said. "They didn't even want to pay for the only pill to help with my nausea."

Dirk Graham, 50, was one of 50 or so attendees who had to wait outside the forum, which was filled to capacity.

"My concern is with the employer mandates," said Graham, the owner of Bottom's Up Pizza, which employs 100 people.

"The bottom line is they need to reform health care but not at the cost of jobs. This will put us from recession to depression."

The mood was anything but depressed when the forum ended about 11:30 a.m. Most felt a change is needed for the financial health and physical well-being of the nation and that the U.S. can do better with more listening and less shouting.

"I think that if people of decent-enough will continue to say this is a problem, perhaps we can start to address the issue before we really are off the cliff," said Richmond social worker Mindy Loiselle, 57.

"I feel like we all have to keep trying."



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Flag Comment Posted by CDorseyHC on September 27, 2009 at 3:41 pm

This narrative does not reflect my experience at the health care town hall.  I was waiting in line outside the RTD at 4:40AM, over an hour before the next person showed up.  I was given a piece of paper with the #1 on it.  I then followed all the guidelines for people wanting to ask questions given by the organizers which was to sit near the microphone at the front of the room. I was closer to the microphone than anyone else.
After I had taken a seat, Dana Millbank of the Washington Post interviewed me because I was the first person to the event.  We then discussed the questions that I was going to ask Scott and Cantor.  Some minutes later an announcement was made that anyone who wanted to ask a question needed to form a line in the hallway which was in the back of the room. This is significant because those who arrived early, had the first numbers on their arrival order and had followed all instructions to that point, were in the front of the room near the microphone.  So what happened to the “first come, first serve” rule that was advertised by the Times-Dispatch?
I got out to the hall as quickly as possible, but of course, because I had followed the previous instructions, I was no longer first…I was seventeenth.  This change in plans rewarded the latecomers.

When I asked a RT-D staff member about the change and shuffling the order, she replied that this is the way we are doing this now.  I responded that this did not answer my question. 
When the event began, I was hoping many people would get a chance to talk to the congressmen. However, it was clear that in order for those who arrived early and followed instructions to speak, the forum would have to last an additional two hours. This was in part because the RT-D did not enforce their own rule of a two minutes limit for each questioner. Some questioners had 15 min at the microphone. This was a shame too, because most of the people who arrived early had insightful questions whereas the latecomers seemed not to even know their facts.
When it was clear I would not get a chance to speak, I began telling an RT-D official sitting directly to my left that I thought it was unfair that I and others who arrived early did not get a chance to speak.  He paused and then replied with an extended “Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!”, which was much louder than my question to him.  I told him that I did not appreciate his response and I wanted to discuss the flipping of the script afterwards.  I did not see him again.  However, after the event, I did approach the moderator, Tom Silvestri.  I explained that I and others who had arrived earliest and followed instructions given by the RT-D organizers had been shafted.  He responded by saying “I am sorry you have a legitimate complaint.”
Then Tom repeated “I am sorry you have a legitimate complaint” and I noticed several Richmond Police and other security closing in on me from the sides and behind me.  I turned and asked the policemen sneaking up on my right hand side “What’s going on?”  The policeman on my left side said “Are you ready to leave?”  I responded by asking again, “What was going on?”  During this time I was neither loud nor disruptive. I was then ordered to follow the police out of the room.  Before the event, RT-D security had confiscated my bike pump which I had been traveling with since I had a slow leak in my bicycle tube.  I requested my pump back and the officers refused to give it to me until we got outside.  Were these men with guns, most of whom were much larger than I, afraid of an unarmed citizen?  As I was being removed, I asked the police if I needed to call a lawyer, where they were taking me and also why I was being removed.  The police refused to answer all questions. When we were officially off RT-D property, I was told the organizers of the event wanted me removed because they did not like something I said earlier.  Since I was not allowed to speak, I can’t imagine what that could be. Perhaps they were referring to my vocal criticism of Congressmen Scott, Cantor and the RT-D.
Are we going to continue to accept these undemocratic intimidation tactics from our government, the media, and the police whose duty it is to uphold the Constitution?

Obviously Tom Silvestri is aware that I was hauled out—according to the police, on his paper’s request.  The story they have written is make-believe.

Chris Dorsey

804-564-1491

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