On ‘Meet the Press,‘ Webb discusses U.S. policy in Afghanistan
Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., warned yesterday that an increased military presence in Afghanistan would risk a "tipping point" in which U.S. troops are viewed as an occupying force.
He also questioned whether Afghanistan, without a viable national government, is capable of building its own security force of 400,000 troops as the top U.S. commander envisions.
"Before we jump forward with a total change of policy," from counterterrorism to counterinsurgency, "we need to look at what is achievable," Webb said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
"We deserve to have very careful consideration before we start moving in the direction of nation-building."
Eight years after the Sept. 11 attacks, President Barack Obama is reviewing U.S. strategy in Afghanistan as the country sorts through a presidential election that was beset by reports of corruption.
Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan, is seeking up to 40,000 additional U.S. troops. He has told top U.S. officials that unless he gets more troops in the next year, the mission is likely to fail.
Six months ago, Obama ordered 21,000 additional troops and trainers to Afghanistan. The last of those forces will arrive in November, bringing U.S. troop strength to 68,000.
In a CBS News/New York Times poll released Friday, 29 percent backed a further U.S. troop increase in Afghanistan, while 32 percent said the troop level should drop and 27 percent said it should remain unchanged. The poll, taken Sept. 19 through Wednesday, was conducted from a random sample of 1,042 adults nationwide and had a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
Meantime, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, appearing yesterday on CNN's "State of the Union," said a timetable for withdrawal would be a mistake and that "failure in Afghanistan would be a huge setback for the United States."
Webb, a decorated Marine and former secretary of the Navy, agreed that Obama should not set a firm date for withdrawal. But he said the U.S. should be able to clearly state the conditions under which the U.S. military mission will end.
A successful counterinsurgency policy requires the ability to move a country's people toward a valid system of government, Webb said.
"And in Afghanistan, it is questionable whether there is a valid national government. Secondly, you have to be able to do so in a way that you have a clear end point for the involvement of your own military."
Webb acknowledged that Afghanistan is complex because of its proximity to Pakistan along with the regional implications of military action. He stressed that he is not talking about abandoning Afghanistan.
"The question is how you fight terrorism -- international terrorism. And in this case, we're widening the envelope to say 'Taliban,'" he said.
"Taliban means government. Are you really going to say that we're going to be responsible for putting in a viable national government in a country that really hasn't ever had one?"
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Senator Webb is one of the most qualified members of Congress to speak on military affairs, having himself served during wartime. Afghanistan is not Iraq—it is a backwards, uncivilized, tribal land—and cannot be defeated by modern technology. There is no victory to be gained in Afghanistan and no one has ever defeated these people. Declare victory—they’ve had their “democratic” elections—and let the goats have this pile of rocks.
We need to either get our troops out of there, because they are in grave danger, or go in there and kick—- and leave.
Woodford, Perfect trio: Allen, Cantor, and Ronald McDonald = Three Clowns.
Seriously, Obama and his people do not seem to realize, or don’t care that they inherited the latest Bush family Narco-dictator. Karzi was created in the mold of Noriega, who was installed as Panama dictator by GHWB’s CIA. partner.
Obama must get ordinary troops out of Afghanistan. Stand off and kill bad guys with drones, missiles and inserted kill teams. If it looks like a training base, blow it up. If a known Qaeda or Taliban moves, blow ‘em up. That is actually being done and working quite well.
Or, take some of the money being wasted on the military in the middle east and dig water wells for the populations in remote areas of these countries. Wonder what would work more toward winning hearts and minds, lifesaving water or wrong target “smart” bombs?
This discussion should not be taking place now. It should have been done before Obama came into office and he should have had a settled policy to implement. As it is, they are ad-libbing things while good people die to buy them time. A surge may be the only option in Afghanistan, but the public will not go for another huge investment of money like on the scale we did in Iraq. Afghans are holding out for the highest bidder and we are getting outbid - it’s that simple. Obama has a choice to ‘surge’ in Afghanistan or finance all his pet domestic projects - he can’t do both and keep the country solvent.
This is a bear. On one hand, we hopefully learned the lessons of “Charlie Wilson’s War”. On the other, we are talking about a government which, like Iran, fakes its own elections.
In the end, we can’t pretend propping up a puppet government is an honorable goal. We very definitely learned that in Vietnam.
Webb is so far out of touch - borderline arrogant. Allen, Cantor, even Ronald McDonald in 2012!!!
As long as we (Virginians) keep voting into office people who can’t find the state on a map, we’ll have non-responsive elected officials. If Webb or Warner thought that interacting with their constituents would gain them votes, they would be deluging you with e-mails!
I’ve emailed Webb a couple of times and never received a respose. Same with Kaine and Warner .... hmmm ... is this a trend?
I’m glad he talks with somebody…..he will not meet with his constituents
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