Time for Groh to go
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FROM PAUL WOODY
Time for Groh to go
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CHARLOTTESVILLE As Al Groh went through the excruciating detail and minutia of another loss, this one to archrival Virginia Tech, summing up another game in which his Virginia Cavaliers were lacking in talent, depth and the ability to compete in the ACC, one invisible elephant sat in the room.
Does Groh expect to coach again for Virginia?
When the question was asked, Groh was prepared.
He unfolded a piece of paper and began to read, not his resignation, but a poem, "The Guy in the Glass" by Dale Wimbrow.
The poem's meaning is simple: You have to be able to look yourself in the mirror and know you did your best, then hold your head high and be proud of your effort.
When you come to a football post game press conference and a poetry reading takes place, you know something unusual is about to happen.
Soon, maybe today, certainly by tomorrow, Groh will be dismissed as Virginia's football coach.
Groh had his chance. It's time for a change.
Groh's poetry reading indicates he knows the end is near.
Groh expounded on his feelings as his wife, son, daughter and several grandchildren listened in the back of the room.
"When I visited the guy in the glass, I saw that he's a guy of commitment, of integrity, of dependability and accountability," Groh said. "He's loyal. His spirit is indomitable. And he is caring and loving. I'm sure I will always call the guy in the glass a friend."
Groh is not the only one who feels that way. Senior linebacker Aaron Clark echoed the sentiment of every player who came to the post-game interviews.
"He's a great guy. He's a great coach, and I love the guy," Clark said. "He's passionate about the game, passionate about his players, intense, smart. I could go on for days."
All that might be true, but it fails to overcome the primary fact in major college football.
The man Groh sees in the glass has not been a successful coach at the University of Virginia.
The Cavaliers finished this season 3-9, and that is on the heels of a 5-7 record in 2008. In nine seasons at Virginia, his overall record is 59-53, 36-37 in the ACC.
Virginia has one victory over a team with a winning record this season, North Carolina, and lost to perennial ACC doormat Duke (5-7) for the second year in a row.
Yesterday's game, a 42-13 loss, was a glaring display of where the Cavaliers stand as a program.
They trail the Hokies, and most other ACC teams in talent, depth and hope.
Virginia Tech lost Darren Evans, who gained 1,265 yards last season as a redshirt freshman, in the preseason. Ryan Williams stepped in and has gained 1,596 for the season, including 183 yesterday.
Behind Williams are two backs, Josh Oglesby and David Wilson, who could start for Virginia.
If Mikell Simpson is healthy - a big if the past two seasons - the Cavaliers have one ACC-caliber running back on the roster.
Yesterday, Groh and his players focused on one game-changing, back-breaking play - a botched pitchout from quarterback Jameel Sewell to Simpson. When that play ended, Virginia Tech had the ball on the Virginia 10-yard line. Two plays later, Williams scored and the Hokies had a 21-13 lead.
When a game turns on one touchdown that gave Virginia Tech an eight-point lead with 5:51 left in the third quarter, it speaks volumes about Virginia football.
The Cavaliers lack the ability to overcome a bad play against a good, but not great, team.
The responsibility for that rests not with the players, but with the head coach who recruits, directs and deploys those players and controls every aspect of the program.
If Groh sees a man of accountability when he looks in the mirror, he can come to only one conclusion. It is time for the man in his mirror to go as Virginia's coach.
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Posted by mikeyt on November 29, 2009 at 10:03 am
midloman… for reference to how well “coach-in-waiting” works, I refer you to Florida State University.
UVa needs a well-established top-level Division I-A winning head coach. They do not need a guy who hasn’t been a head coach, they do not need the top assistant coach. They need someone who has coached and won at the same level or better.
Tommy Tuberville. The sooner they sign him, the quicker the UVa program will get better.
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An SEC guy? Oh man….
Posted by Question Govt on November 29, 2009 at 10:47 am
The mission of all our universities is education and academic achievement - not entertainment of wealthy alumni and supporters or serving as NFL training camps. Before firing any coach for football underachievement, University Presidents should demand that the AD compare the levels of academic qualification and achievement of his players with those of other schools whose football program is viewed as “better” or “championship quality”.
I strongly suspect that such a comparison would, in a great number of cases, show that schools deemed to have “underperformed” athletically will have, on the average, much higher levels of academic qualification, interest, and academic achievement among members of their football teams.
No alumnus or supporter of any University should be proud of reducing levels of academic qualification and achievement in order to field a “championship” football team consisting of far too many players who are “NFL-trainees” rather than legitimate “student-athletes” earnestly working toward earning a meaningful academic degree. Given the state of far too many FBS (formerly Division 1-A) programs, the NCAA’s use of the term “student-athlete” has become an oxymoron.
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OK so this is a different sport all together, but please do tell how you felt about someone painting ‘Ralph’s House’ on U-Hall before the guy even enrolled?
I’m just askin’......
The good news about football in the state is that both UVA and Virginia Tech graduate a high percentage of student athletes, recruit only a small percentage of minimum qualifiers, and generally do a good job running clean programs,especially when compared to other conferences.
Groh was probably not a good college fit. I hated his pro approach but I applaud his character building. Unlike some other schools in the state, his grads have entered the pros without the “baggage” many athletes carry.
UVa needs a good recruiter. Groh angered many high school coaches with his arrogant “Belichik attitude”. Many coaches refused work with him as a result. He also had a revolving door with assistants. UVa must get a guy that works well with others. Trite but true in this case. BTW Bud Foster is a name I’ve heard mentioned. He is a very good assistant but not a head coach.
The mission of all our universities is education and academic achievement - not entertainment of wealthy alumni and supporters or serving as NFL training camps. Before firing any coach for football underachievement, University Presidents should demand that the AD compare the levels of academic qualification and achievement of his players with those of other schools whose football program is viewed as “better” or “championship quality”.
I strongly suspect that such a comparison would, in a great number of cases, show that schools deemed to have “underperformed” athletically will have, on the average, much higher levels of academic qualification, interest, and academic achievement among members of their football teams.
No alumnus or supporter of any University should be proud of reducing levels of academic qualification and achievement in order to field a “championship” football team consisting of far too many players who are “NFL-trainees” rather than legitimate “student-athletes” earnestly working toward earning a meaningful academic degree. Given the state of far too many FBS (formerly Division 1-A) programs, the NCAA’s use of the term “student-athlete” has become an oxymoron.
I don’t know Al Groh, but I suspect he is a good man in a bad situation.
At the end of the Bestwick years UVa would have been an also-ran versus high school teams from Fla or Texas. George Welch showed that a coach could make a difference and I think UVa’s grumbling old grads want a ‘second coming’.
The problem, as I see it, is that big time college football has become ever more addicted to big time money. Fine schools are tripping over themselves trying to recruit and keep in school players who, but for physical strength and agility, would never get past an admissions board. Even an academically qualified athlete might notice that C’ville isn’t exactly the most exciting place to spend 4 years and choose a more glamorous setting.
Coach Groh gave his best, I’m sure. His successor will probably be around long enough to see his first recruits graduate, then we’ll have this discussion again.
midloman… for reference to how well “coach-in-waiting” works, I refer you to Florida State University.
UVa needs a well-established top-level Division I-A winning head coach. They do not need a guy who hasn’t been a head coach, they do not need the top assistant coach. They need someone who has coached and won at the same level or better.
Tommy Tuberville. The sooner they sign him, the quicker the UVa program will get better.
I suggest keeping Groh while naming Anthony Poindexter Coach-in-Waiting. This will allow for a smooth transition as Poindexter begins to take over during the two-year period. It will also be prudent money management and improve recruiting, especially in Virginia. A fitting reward for Poindexter’s loyalty, a man who is a dedicated Cavalier. Otherwise, Littlepage may make another costly mistake as he has already done. We don’t need a heavyweight coach from some other universe. We need a Cavalier man. Poindexter, I say.
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