Sports Backers support Shockoe Bottom ballpark
CLEMENT BRITT/TIMES-DISPATCH
The Sports Backers’ executive director, Jon Lugbill, said his organization’s board of directors recently heard a presentation from Highwoods Properties, the potential developer of Shockoe Center.
Published: April 9, 2009
The Sports Backers, an organization founded in 1991 to build a more vibrant Richmond community through sports, yesterday endorsed the concept of a Shockoe Bottom ballpark.
The Sports Backers' executive director, Jon Lugbill, said his organization's board of directors recently heard a presentation from Highwoods Properties, the potential developer of Shockoe Center. The $318 million project would include a $60 million ballpark that seats 8,500. Bryan Bostic, leader of a local ownership group that wants to return professional baseball to Richmond, was part of the presentation, too.
Also yesterday, Shockoe Center project coordinators announced the launch of their Web site: http://www.shockoecenter.com.
The Sports Backers' support for Shockoe Center depends on project organizers and the City of Richmond reaching a financial agreement. The city continues to study the Shockoe Center plan.
"We think this proposal has a lot of merit," Lugbill said. "They really have done their homework. Highwoods is a very solid, reputable developer. They put together a package, I think, that makes a lot of sense.
"They thought through a lot of the issues. The tax district that they're proposing is just within the area that they're developing. A lot of the things that were loose before, like with the flood issues and some of the other things, have been addressed.
"The board really felt that this is something that should be supported."
Richmond-area residents continue to debate whether a new ballpark should be built in Shockoe Bottom or on The Boulevard, where The Diamond is located. The Atlanta Braves moved their Class AAA franchise from Richmond to Gwinnett County, Ga., following last season because of the organization's dissatisfaction with The Diamond and the lack of a firm plan to replace it.
Bostic's Richmond Baseball Club LC hopes to soon announce the purchase of the Class AA Connecticut franchise of the Eastern League. That club, under Bostic's plan, would move to Richmond next season and play at The Diamond until a ballpark is constructed.
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Who will really attend games downtown? Does anyone believe people from Henrico or Hanover or even west Chesterfield will come downtown for a game? I don’t see it. Besides, I am a Braves fan, having grown up in Richmond. It doesn’t matter where a stadium is built, because I will not patronize or financially support a major league farm team that is not affiliated with the Braves. For my son and I, baseball in the future will be VCU, UR and the Petersburg Generals.
Couple of points:
1) The only cost of this development directly to the City/taxpayers is $8 million for infrastructure (roads/sewers) that the entire Bottom will benefit from.
2) As to Rondo33’s point, renovation of the Diamond is not an option. The entire structure would basically have to be re-built if it were to be renovated in a manner that would attract a team and patrons. Even if we though renovation was the way to go, no private investor has stepped forward willing to put together a package to renovate for less than $8 million in cost to the city. In other words, if it is to be renovated, it is probably going to be through public money—more public money than the $8 million in infrastructure needed for the Bottom. Bottom line = it would cost more and would not bring all of the benefits to the city that the Shockoe Center project stands to bring.
3) Same goes for a new ballpark on the Boulevard. Last year’s study showed that the highest use of the Boulevard property could not include a ballpark. Building a new ballpark on the Boulevard would likewise involve more taxpayer money. If you disagree, why has no one—not a single of the developers that responded to the City’s RFP last year—come forward with a plan for the Boulevard like the Shockoe Center plan that would cost the City only $8 million or less?
4) Everytime I see the traffic argument for the Boulevard I just have to laugh. When the Diamond was busy (a rare occasion), getting in and out was hardly a breeze. Parking lot access was limited and difficult to enter except from one direction. You have one on ramp north and one south. That’s it. On the contrary, in the Bottom you have the convergence of I64, I95, the Downtown Expressway, and the east/west routes of Broad St., Main St., Cary St. and Route 5. Contrary to Dogtown’s point, the streets around that area are no more “narrow and congested” than the streets around the Diamond. Moreover, the Bottom is only 3 exits away from the Diamond, is closer for many of those who live south and east of town, and is within walking distance of thousands of downtown workers and residents who are likely to walk over to a game after work or dinner. I believe that the traffic concerns are raised mainly by those folks who don’t come downtown and really aren’t that familiar w/ the Bottom.
5) As for tax rates and tax districts, let’s be clear about one thing—the new tax district will only include the new development. Existing businesses, etc. won’t be affected, and funds generated by those existing businesses (which will likely increase w/ this project—just ask the businesses in the Bottom that support this) will continue to go directly to the City and state as they always have.
6) Finally, as to Jack’s point about “baseball fans.“ I am not a big baseball fan, but I feel passionately about this project. That’s because I believe that in addition to providing a huge ‘quality of life’ benefit, it has the potential to provide a large economic benefit to the city by making it possible for the development of a piece of land that otherwise could not be developed due to flood plain restrictions. This project will draw not only big baseball fans, but also families and single 20 and 30 somethings who are casual fans but looking for a new way and a new place to spend their entertainment dollars. I believe the end result will be a better Richmond, and ultimately a larger tax base for the City, which means better schools, better services, etc.
Check out more of my thoughts on my blog—lifeinthe804.blogspot.com
vcurick no where in my comment did I say scrap the plan. You are right about progressive thinking. I just think all aspects of this project should be explored.
To Frojunk: Your response typifies, for me, the “group think” of those who propose that tax payers support every development that is proposed. Firstly, there is a great deal of recently developed real estate in the city that suffers from very low occupancy, and make no profit or very little.
Secondly, every development imposes costs on the city for increased fire protection, police protection, water, sewer, drainage, highways, and other infrastructure. Unless the development in question produces sufficient revenue to pay its fair share of the incremental costs, tax payers are left “holding the bag’.
Thirdly, Richmond has an inordinate amount of government-owned real estate which is totally exempt from property taxes designed to pay for the infrastructure and public services load it imposes. Richmond taxpayers are left paying those costs minus reasonably inconsequential “voluntary” contributions from the government.
Forthly, a ball park depends upon regional attendance ... if those outside the City of Richmond benefit from its construction, they should share proportionately in the risks and rewards.
Finally, my original comments were specific to a proposal for taxpayer subsidies for an unnecessary public facility designed, primarily, to benefit the developers and professional baseball for which there is a demonstrated limited regional audience. As those of the “entitlement class” often do, you, incorrectly attempted to divert attention from the issue being address by making a ludicrous statement that I was suggestion no further development.
If you are so strongly in favor of the proposal, my suggestion would be that you join The Sports Backers in a privately funded venture to construct the stadium and pay for necessary infrastructure improvements it will require.
So you think that they should scrap the entire play because they can’t have fireworks one weekend a year? That is progressive thinking!!
I have seen alot of talk about this ballpark, but nothing has been said about the much beloved July 4th fireworks display. If you build the ballpark in the bottom that event would come to an end. You certainly can’t have a large and loud display of fireworks in the backyard of VCU’s critical care hospital.Just something to think about.
Folks let’s all take a deep breathe and look at the baseball park with some
common sence approach. The Diamond as old as it is , can be with a smaller amount of money be completely redone, to make it a new ballpark again. This has been done in many cities and has worked out good for all parties. The tax payers are at an all time end when it comes to funding things that do not touch everyone.I am very glad to see a AA franchise in Richmond, baseball fans of all ages will see a better product then the AAA of old. Bostic has done a noble job in moving forward to keep baseball in the cap city. He will have large support for this move. The downtown stadium on paper looks
wonderful, in real world thinking maybe not the right time or the right place for that new stadium. Take the funds that were suppose to be set aside and rebuilt the diamond. it could be done in one off season. The playing surface at the diamond has already had a $500,000 face lift. So why not restore what you have. I think this would a more acceptable idea to the city and all the local counties too. Just an old country boy’s look at things. Hope some of you will agree?
Who cares where they put it as long as they and the maybe 5 to 10 thousand baseball fans pay for it and not the taxpayers having to put up even one penny.
These sports fanatics are heck bent to have their favorite pastime as long as someone else pays for it.
Sports is not a function of government and spending any public funds or committing any future tax revenue schemes to sports is unconstitutional.
to dogtown, ever think of what will happen if nothing further is ever developed in the city? You’ll watch Richmond continue to sink further into oblivion, and then your tax dollars will be wasted on the bare necessities needed to keep city government affloat. With a foreward thinking development, maybe more growth occurs, more people move downtown, more overall revenue for the city coffers - thus lessening your tax burden.
The Sports Backers find much merit in Highwoods’ proposal, so they, not Richmond tax payers, should raise the money to underwrite the cost. If The Sports Backers and other private interests raise and provide the funding, I don’t care where the stadium is built.
However proponents of the downtown site seem not to want to acknowledge that the streets leading to the proposed downtown site are narrow, congested, and tremendous amounts of Richmond’s tax revenue will be required to improve them to the extent required to accommodate the additional traffic. Similarly, it is likely that expensive, additional drainage improvements will be needed, at Richmond tax payer expense. We cannot afford those costs.
City tax rates already exceed those of surrounding jurisdictions, the City is having to leave jobs unfilled and considering possible layoffs (both of which will adversely effect the delivery to services), now is not the time to place further burdens on Richmond taxpayers to enhance the financial welfare of Highwoods or professional baseball. Streets, critical
infrastructure, schools, programs to keep our youth off the street and build character, and public health all require more money than is available. For the City to subsidize a sports stadium for minor-league baseball which has a very limited following within the City, would be inexcusable.
Those willing to objectively view the situation see that access to the existing property on the Boulevard is much easier than is true downtown - and no money is required to make street improvements or improve drainage at that sight. In today’s economic climate, those that want “luxuries” should be content to wait until the necessities have been provided or underwrite the costs themselves.
Until necessary public services and badly needed infrastructure repairs and upgrades are accomplished, those that want a new stadium should keep their hands of our Richmond taxpayers’ pockets.
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